"WHEN I SENDED TREETOG ANOTHER EMAIL ABOUT THE SUBJECT HE DIDN'T FIND IT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO ANSWER IT In that case, I will just decide on my own. "

That shows a lack of judgment and some disrespect. You assume Treetog even got the mail. Perhaps something happened along the way, or he was having mail server issues at some point. Just assuming he ignored you, and then publicaly saying that is a slap in the face for Renato. Out of all the people I've ever comunicated with in this scene, he's always the nicest. Always takes his time to respond to anyone's queries, no matter who they are, or whatever reason it is.
The reason people are gettnig pissy is that the Skindicate ay have been a one-shot thing, but they did something very new and unique, when they created the largest suite ever made. They've influenced a lot of people, and helped them too, and for that very reason alone the respect is there for the name.

Hippy, Its not a slap in the face. I find it disrespectfull that I send emails and yes, believe me, it were multiple emails and I don't receive an answere on them. Its very anoying if you try to set up something new but at the same time you are just being ignored, or something that looks like it. Besides, I can understand that there is respect for the name but c'mon, lets stay realistic, isn't it a bit weird to try to claim your rights on something that was created 4 years ago for a one-time thing?

And hippy, you're an admin/wizop.... any idea why I was demoted... bit wierd?

yeah I gues so. I just got a responce from treetog. He isn't too happy about me wanting to use the name I gues I won't do it then.


Taken from one of your previous threads about the subject.

Styl, I thought I read a thread on this subject a while back and a whole host of alternate names were suggested. I cannot understand why this paticular name is so important to you. Also, I thought at the time that some of those names put forward were superior to the one in question. Just wondering ?

The name is indeed important to me for personal reasons and I really, really want to keep it to go on.

Work In Progress...

Window Borders
- Two different border styles being used....square corners on active frame and rounded corners with magic pink showing on inactive frame.
- Left side of frame does not allow enough room in green area for system icon. It causes the icon to cut into white by 5 to 6 pixels.
- Rollup doesn't work...really is a must have feature for any windowblind and doesn't require another button. Just set it up to react to right-click from the mouse.

Titlebar Buttons
- Help button for active state not skinned.
- Help button for inactive state not skinned.

Tool Window Borders
- Nothing to see here, because nothing is skinned here.

Controls
- Check Box using same state for mouseover and checked.
- Deprecated Checkbox image should be removed if it's not being used.
- ComboBox Button using deprecated unskinned glyphs for arrows.
- ComboBox Glyph image is missing....the reason for above.
- Edit border set to RGB 86 86 86 when every other border is RGB 159 229 89.
- Groupbox frame not skinned or using RGB 211 211 196
- Deprecated Radio Button image should be removed if it's not being used.
- Spin Buttom glyphs not skinned.
- Toolbar Gripper - Deprecated (WB3.x) being used. Should be using (WB4+), it has more flexible margin options.
- Tree View Expander not skinned.

XP Shell
- Logoff Dialog Buttons not skinned.
- "Created by the Skindicate"....didn't know that Treetog and Dangeruss created your Shutdown Dialog background.
- Task Pane...absolutely nothing skinned here.
- Special Folders....ditto, nothing skinned here either

Miscellaneous
- Not all colors set under classic colors
- Not all colors set throughout the skin

Start Panel
- More Programs Menu Background not skinned
- More Programs Menu Item not skinned

Taskbar
- Vertical taskbar not skinned
- When horizontal taskbar is single button high, which is default when skin opens, systray icons don't show and the startbutton is cutoff.
- System Tray Notification Arrow not centered on line between systray and rest of taskbar or it cuts slightly into the line. Either way it doesn't look right.

Desktop
- Margins not set for Classic Start Button

by Scribe Essencay - 10/19/2004 9:07:21 PM

I would say a 2 rating is pretty fair at this point.

Styl : You were warned about the Domain Name months before. Do You really expect anyone to accept You as a serious guy after all this disrespect and after officially supporting a bunch of thieves now ? (Which quite fits after You stealing a still respected name by elder skinners or users)

Well, I can see some points, first of all, I don't think TGT Soft is a bunch of thieves... I think they are a client. But lets keep them out of this.

If I would change the name not a chance I will be accepted anyway so the point of changing is far out here...

Give me 2 weeks to considder, get the copyrights on a new name if we have one before then.... I will change ok thats clear for now but I do want to talk to treetog so I will send him some emails hoping he will reply. Give it 2 weeks, then cointinue your battle

"#3 by Skinner Styl skinner - 10/20/2004 5:09:35 AM And hippy, you're an admin/wizop.... any idea why I was demoted... bit wierd? "

No idea. I have to admit I still can't tell the differences between all the user levels. There was no mention on the admin board of a demotion, which is what usually happens when that occurs to someone.

yeah I gues so. I just got a responce from treetog. He isn't too happy about me wanting to use the name I gues I won't do it then.Taken from one of your previous threads about the subject.

No response this this Styl ?

email was after that over a second name simular to skindicate...

Give me 2 weeks to considder, get the copyrights on a new name if we have one before then.... I will change ok thats clear for now but I do want to talk to treetog so I will send him some emails hoping he will reply. Give it 2 weeks, then cointinue your battle

Thats what you said the last time. You also said that you WERENT going to be using Skindicate. You specifically said that you had a new ORIGINAL name for your company. As of now, I can say three things: 1) I wont be downloading your stuff til you change your name. 2) I wouldnt download it anyways until your quality is higher. 3) Your attitude towards intellectual copyright is crap.

That about sums up my feelings on the topic. >

This Again!

Frankly I'm not at all impressed.

It was STRONGLY suggested you NOT use that name....yet you specifically ignored it.

The Skindicate was/is three people.  The title/nick exists on this site as a Registered UserID.....also as a Stardock Customer ID.

It also exists on other skinning sites, and belongs to these same 3 people there as well.

They are the history of Skinning and digital art on many diverse levels/fields.  To usurp this name is clearly an attempt to cash in on their historical significance either blatantly or subversively, and cannot be condoned.

One particular member of The Skindicate is still very much active within the skinning community...and is commercially involved.

Should this name/reputation be diluted/diminished by association there will be a case to answer.

If one of the 3 individuals expressed negativity towards your use of the name, any decent, morally undiminished individual would have respected his wishes and chosen an alternative.