Skins and walls from Ron Meijer
Published on August 13, 2004 By Styl-X Design In WinCustomize Talk
I would like a honest opinion about my new webdesign. Don't comment on spelling, I know, will be fixed in 2 day when it goes 'official'.

http://www.styl-x.com

Thanks. Also, if you see any flaws in code/design, let me know.
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on Aug 21, 2004
TSF I'm angry with you, it's been two weeks and I have yet to see the skin released, why torture me!? Why!? In other news, I do notice the similarities between both sites, but cannot really tell if its just coincidence or not so I'll leave this to the pros.
on Aug 21, 2004
Looks like you spilled bleach over it.


Hehe thats funny!
on Aug 21, 2004
Mike, if you can rip a 'layout' or 'style' all sites on the whole internet could better get their servers down... hm, WC actually really look like all other skinning sites

Spilled bleach over it? funny indeed
(for seriouse, some idiot offered me $400 for the design after I gave him a link so he could check it out...


And no, I never wanted to be a thread to any design or design company but think of thi: You guys deliver quality work but that work probably comes at a high price. I like to think of myself as a person who delivers quality work but I bet I can deliver an interface at the fraction of the costs you guys do.

And yes, I know the spelling is bad on the site. Dutch guy eh... ofcourse that won't stay on it.
on Aug 21, 2004
I think alot of other skinning sites are influenced by US, Here.
When this site was built there weren't alot of BIG Sites. There were the individual User Sites and Designer Sites, Skinz.Org, Custo, Deviant, and several smaller sites, but alot of the Skinz.org crowd came here, and Brad gave us a home, Skinz.org was the Quintessential Skinz Site. As I am sure alot of folks here will back me on this, when alot of folks gather together at one watering hole, there comes to be a melding of styles and a natural fusion of Ideas and influences (the creme always rises to the top, so to say.) In this then alot of sites will seem to have similar styles or flavours. You might like a text box from site "A" and A graphic layout (flow not image" or someting else, it doesn't matter. So WC is often imitated, but never DUPLICATED. When you work as hard as Brad, aND THE Gang on something, and it comes to perfection, then it is hard to not see it's influence on other sites, because alot of those "Other People" were from "Here." If you are trying to flatter TSF, ripping their Site and then Ripping someone else's Name, and then GlamHounding a Thread on WC (the Creme of the Crop Custo Page), you must be either a youngster playing at businessman, or an idiot playing at being a skinner.
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on Aug 21, 2004
Well, Styl, I think allot of these post or more helpful than anything else. Yes the style of your site looks like the skins factory. Yeah it is possible that most will not care a lick, but I just think that for a skinning firm or business you should be able to come up with something more 'original'. Original in the sense that there is a major skinning firm with a similar look and you might want to separate yourself a little more with the button style and background borders.

Hey take a look at Deviant Art in the category web interfaces. Lots of ideas there!!! In doing my research for the skin report (as well as other things) I found it and its amazing!!!

I recently made favorites of some of them on my anifanatic deviantart main page:
http://thoseanifanatics.deviantart.com

#71 by craeonics - 8/21/2004 10:50:33 AM All plagiarism (or not) aside, you need more pics on that site, man. There's way too much text and no flavour whatsoever. Also, the overall text layout is sloppy (which is something most skinners have in common).


yeah, and even putting politics, memories, and even 'likeness' aside too, I agree its text heavy (but I assume that it is because it is in the design stages... the same with the spelling)

Text layout... well, I think artist tend to have a problem with that (and spelling) because they use a different part of the brain than people who calculate or are more into non-art activities.

So as an artist (sort of) I have to be very careful about spelling and style formatting and language. MAN THAT IS TOUGH!!!

I hope all this helps. From all the comments I see here you should have a very banging site when done.
on Aug 21, 2004
#79 by Citizen CygnusXII - 8/21/2004 2:06:06 PM I think allot of other skinning sites are influenced by US, Here....If you are trying to flatter TSF, ripping their Site and then Ripping someone else's Name, and then GlamHounding a Thread on WC (the Creme of the Crop Custo Page), you must be either a youngster playing at businessman, or an idiot playing at being a skinner.


Hey!!! Be nice now! China Cat is already upset, but the kid has spunk. I think lead in the right direction will help him allot. Plus, with the language difference, some things might not translate well.


My final suggestion is this:
Take some small courses in marketing management, web design and illustration. One side will give you practice on ideas and the other will help you to become more business like in approach and manner.

THE POWER IS YOURS!!!!! GO CAPTAIN PLANET!


P.S.
If some people seem to be hard on you Styl (even me) its because they been in the game or community (or whatever you want to call it) for a while. some opinions might be more opinion than fact but the bottom line is that I think most comments are trying to steer you ion the right direction. As an apprentice (novice or beginner) in marketing, design, business management, business strategies, consumer behavior and theory... damn that's allot... I encourage you to do some more research and come up with a solution that will help your business in the long run as well as in short term. Right now your in a niche market and it would seem that your putting yourself in an even smaller niche in the niche. Keep yourself open to other stuff.

Most of all, have FUN!!!! FUN, FUN, FUN!!!!
on Aug 21, 2004
well you can always bring the text into Microsoft Word and do a spell check - which was basically my point.

DWatson - i think possibly monday or tuesday. Most likely monday. It went through a lot of bug testing since it's shipping on their machines.

I'll give you one more peek though:



on Aug 21, 2004
TSF- Those are amazing... Any word on how the whole setup will look on a laptop? I plan to put this on my desktop and if at all poss. my laptop as well, but I have to make sure it won't look weird. You never cease to amaze with these masterpieces. I plan to personally email BungieSoftware and inform them of your skills and of the fact that a Halo 2 skin suite would be totally awesome. Perhaps they might even listen.
on Aug 21, 2004
I didn't mean to get testy, but after 50 or 60 posts, the message did not seem to be getting through. So for the sake of decorum, I will apologize for calling him an idiot.
I might have used Obstinate, or could have used Obtuse, but should have just let the facts speak for themselves, as observation is the best telltale of them all. I will defer final Judgement, for when the site is changed. I would be more than Happy to be proven wrong. I always am, it means I can still learn a thing or two and have not turned into a curmudgen.
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on Aug 22, 2004
how will it look on a laptop? I guess the same as an lcd. I have it on my laptop and it looks fine.
on Aug 22, 2004
Looking very good jeff, only one thing that is really 'wrong' with this preview is the little joystick?, antena?, that is comming out of the icon in the middle. It just looks like it is out of place, maybe some depth at the point where it connects with the icon would help.

just my 2 cents... the other icons are looking very neet I must say...
on Aug 22, 2004
Styl....I think its a wireless network adapter.
on Aug 22, 2004
I really dont care what it is, it looks sweet but dont you think the antena should be a little bit 'pushed into it'?
on Aug 23, 2004
Okay TSF, after seeing these mega cool images that are just the PREVIEWS of what's to come, I can't help but wonder why you didn't enter the GUI Olympics when they took place? I mean those icons would easily have destroyed the competition, and I would love to have seen you and Pixtudio battle it out!

BTW- Who wants to place bets on how many screenshots will be submitted of the new theme the day of it's release?

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on Aug 23, 2004
I say 12!
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